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PostSubject: Re: Religion   Sun Feb 05, 2012 10:59 pm

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Hardly.

Think of Greek Mythology
Great point. I guess it's the laws of religion and the threats that make it what it is.

Ya, which brings me back to the point of the separation of church and state. Religion has too much influence in the world.
Yes, it does. A lot of people aren't treated equally and aren't given the same opportunities because of religion.

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PostSubject: Re: Religion   Sun Feb 05, 2012 11:00 pm

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Hardly.

Think of Greek Mythology
Great point. I guess it's the laws of religion and the threats that make it what it is.

Ya, which brings me back to the point of the separation of church and state. Religion has too much influence in the world.
Yes, it does. A lot of people aren't treated equally and aren't given the same opportunities because of religion.

I think it's that which pisses me off the most, I can't stand it when anyone is discriminated on for any reason, can't we all just co-exist together without being such hateful pricks towards peoples beliefs.

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PostSubject: Re: Religion   Sun Feb 05, 2012 11:01 pm

I live in that situation every day. Not fun.

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PostSubject: Re: Religion   Sun Feb 05, 2012 11:04 pm

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I live in that situation every day. Not fun.

That's because your parents are unappreciative narrow-minded simpletons who can't accept people who are different from themselves and those who are exactly like them. That's the cold truth.

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PostSubject: Re: Religion   Sun Feb 05, 2012 11:05 pm

And it sucks butts. Always feeling guilty and unsafe. A;LSJDF;LAJSDF;LAJSDF

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PostSubject: Re: Religion   Sun Feb 05, 2012 11:07 pm

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And it sucks butts. Always feeling guilty and unsafe. A;LSJDF;LAJSDF;LAJSDF

Don't feel guilty about what they can't understand

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PostSubject: Re: Religion   Sun Feb 05, 2012 11:09 pm

I can't help it though. It's too hard to explain though.

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PostSubject: Re: Religion   Sun Feb 05, 2012 11:10 pm

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I can't help it though. It's too hard to explain though.

Go on and explain it as best as you can bro, I've got the time xD

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PostSubject: Re: Religion   Sun Feb 05, 2012 11:12 pm

I've got the time too. I'm here for you.

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PostSubject: Re: Religion   Sun Feb 05, 2012 11:13 pm

I'll explain later. I'm goin' in the hot tub Very Happy
k nevermind i lied i guess
But like... I know why things are the way they are. And it all comes back to me. I'm in the situation I'm in all because of me and me alone. That's how it is.

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PostSubject: Re: Religion   Sun Feb 05, 2012 11:21 pm

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I'll explain later. I'm goin' in the hot tub Very Happy
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But like... I know why things are the way they are. And it all comes back to me. I'm in the situation I'm in all because of me and me alone. That's how it is.

What do you mean it all comes back to you?

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PostSubject: Re: Religion   Sun Feb 05, 2012 11:22 pm

I really don't want to explain, but it does. I made certain decisions and was careless. That's the gist.

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PostSubject: Re: Religion   Sun Feb 05, 2012 11:23 pm

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I really don't want to explain, but it does. I made certain decisions and was careless. That's the gist.

Are these decisions regarding your personal beliefs?

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PostSubject: Re: Religion   Sun Feb 05, 2012 11:24 pm

I guess. Moreso decisions that made me who I am. I mean, everyone has those, they're inevitable. But it's hard to live with.

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PostSubject: Re: Religion   Sun Feb 05, 2012 11:25 pm

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I guess. Moreso decisions that made me who I am. I mean, everyone has those, they're inevitable. But it's hard to live with.
You're just in a shitty environment that isn't accepting of your views and who you are at the moment.
It's not permanent, you'll find it much easier when you live on your own

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PostSubject: Re: Religion   Sun Feb 05, 2012 11:26 pm

I know. There are just some things I'll never get over and will always have on my back for my entire life. Just because I was a stupid kid.

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PostSubject: Re: Religion   Sun Feb 05, 2012 11:28 pm

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I know. There are just some things I'll never get over and will always have on my back for my entire life. Just because I was a stupid kid.

That's what I thought too about quite a few things, but for me I look back and I laugh. You aren't a stupid kid, you're more intelligent and well-informed and open than most adults that I know.

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PostSubject: Re: Religion   Sun Feb 05, 2012 11:33 pm

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I know. There are just some things I'll never get over and will always have on my back for my entire life. Just because I was a stupid kid.

That's what I thought too about quite a few things, but for me I look back and I laugh. You aren't a stupid kid, you're more intelligent and well-informed and open than most adults that I know.
Thanks man.

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PostSubject: Re: Religion   Mon Feb 06, 2012 12:42 am

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I know. There are just some things I'll never get over and will always have on my back for my entire life. Just because I was a stupid kid.

That's what I thought too about quite a few things, but for me I look back and I laugh. You aren't a stupid kid, you're more intelligent and well-informed and open than most adults that I know.
Thanks man.
Seriously, the world needs more people like you. And things will get better, so never give up.
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PostSubject: Re: Religion   Mon Feb 06, 2012 1:17 am

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I know. There are just some things I'll never get over and will always have on my back for my entire life. Just because I was a stupid kid.

That's what I thought too about quite a few things, but for me I look back and I laugh. You aren't a stupid kid, you're more intelligent and well-informed and open than most adults that I know.
Thanks man.
Seriously, the world needs more people like you. And things will get better, so never give up.
Thank you. It really means the world.

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PostSubject: Re: Religion   Mon Feb 06, 2012 3:29 am

It's no prob man, we're always here for you

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PostSubject: Re: Religion   Mon Feb 20, 2012 8:04 am

Since this is about a religion I thought I'd post my ideas here and if you're the tl;dr type then just stop right now.

If you have or haven't noticed I've changed my religious views from Muslim to Agnostic for those of you who don't know some people like being Agnostic some don't but being Agnostic is sort of the inbetween method you're not an atheist yet you don't believe in the god of the religious other Agnostic are just people who don't give a flying fuck about either
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for be me being Agnostic is (hopefully) a temporary thing until I come to decide wether or not Islam is the way to go living a good life following god's rules thinking I'll go to a better place when I die etc. or Being able to do what I want while still being able to be a good human being and thinking when I die thats it my time is over. My atheist (he doesn't admit it openly) friend (who I may or may not invite to the forum(Don't worry he is nothing like shab)) is the one whose really even made me consider this, we've been fighting over this for a bit over a month now going back and forth, some points that really hit me hard were

1- Our Prophet was a pedophile for those of you who don't know 90% of Muslims do not know that Muhammad was allowed to fuck Aisha when she was only around 9 years old and our religion allowed it, the thought just makes me sad.

2-Nitpicking the Qur'an, if this is truly religion then ALL of it should make sense not just 1 or 2 lines which is sadly the case.

3-Richard Dawkins is (sexy) an intelligent man with a lot of points really you should see him

4-White peppered moth. nuff said

I'm going to stop this here but please do tell me your ideas on this point (and Dark yes I too did research into Noah's Arc and find it difficult to believe) what made you believe in what you believe in right now? What is your old/current religion (if any)?

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PostSubject: Re: Religion   Mon Feb 20, 2012 12:17 pm

I don't try to understand things that I can't. I'm a tiny being on an impossibly small planet in a universe with no edge.
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I don't try to figure out where everything came from (for all we know, it could have always existed). I see no purpose in limiting myself to the laws of an ancient book just because it gives a weak theory as to why things are the way they are.
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PostSubject: Re: Religion   Mon Feb 20, 2012 1:21 pm

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Since this is about a religion I thought I'd post my ideas here and if you're the tl;dr type then just stop right now.

If you have or haven't noticed I've changed my religious views from Muslim to Agnostic for those of you who don't know some people like being Agnostic some don't but being Agnostic is sort of the inbetween method you're not an atheist yet you don't believe in the god of the religious other Agnostic are just people who don't give a flying fuck about either
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for be me being Agnostic is (hopefully) a temporary thing until I come to decide wether or not Islam is the way to go living a good life following god's rules thinking I'll go to a better place when I die etc. or Being able to do what I want while still being able to be a good human being and thinking when I die thats it my time is over. My atheist (he doesn't admit it openly) friend (who I may or may not invite to the forum(Don't worry he is nothing like shab)) is the one whose really even made me consider this, we've been fighting over this for a bit over a month now going back and forth, some points that really hit me hard were

1- Our Prophet was a pedophile for those of you who don't know 90% of Muslims do not know that Muhammad was allowed to fuck Aisha when she was only around 9 years old and our religion allowed it, the thought just makes me sad.

2-Nitpicking the Qur'an, if this is truly religion then ALL of it should make sense not just 1 or 2 lines which is sadly the case.

3-Richard Dawkins is (sexy) an intelligent man with a lot of points really you should see him

4-White peppered moth. nuff said

I'm going to stop this here but please do tell me your ideas on this point (and Dark yes I too did research into Noah's Arc and find it difficult to believe) what made you believe in what you believe in right now? What is your old/current religion (if any)?

Well, I never really paid attention to religion at all when I was a kid because I was too busy doing more important things like playing pokemon and collecting yu-gi-oh cards, and when I was forced to (my parents before they divorced sent me to catholic school at an early age, fourth grade and I've been stuck in such schools all my life), I always found it to be bogus, I became an Atheist when I was around 9 years old I believe.
Also it's not just the Qur'an, all religious texts should just be viewed as stories. Obviously (as you indicated with the 9 year old), there is little to no moral value in the Qur'an, there is little moral value in the bible either (saying that people should be stoned to death, saying how many times you should beat a slave). So actually following these guidelines established by some random book written by some random guy ages ago is... ridiculous at best.
I applaud your change to agnosticism, in some cases it's nicer than Atheism, as you simply don't care / are on the cusp between theism or non-theism.
I myself am an atheist due to the fact that through scientific proof, common sense and many other reasons I just don't believe in a deity.
I was actually an Atheist before I heard about Richard Dawkins, I didn't hear about him until I was around 15 or 16.

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